Assessing Testing and Deployment – Episode 56

Welcome back to another Testing In The Pub – it’s episode 56 where we talk about Assessing Testing and Deployment with Amy Phillips.

In this episode Steve and Amy talk about how to assess a team or company’s testing and deployment activities, whether you are new to the company or looking to improve an existing team.

We mention the concept of four key metrics; lead time, deployment frequency, mean time to restore (MTTR) and change fail percentage and the book Accelerate by Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble and Gene Kim. It’s well worth buying

Leading Quality – Episode 55

Welcome back to another Testing In The Pub, Episode 55 – Leading Quality. In this episode we sit down with Ronald Cummings-John to chat about his new book Leading Quality, and how we can all help to change the quality narrative in organisations.

You can learn more about the new book, written with Owais Peer at, and read a free chapter from the book or pre-order the whole thing 🙂

How We Record Testing In The Pub

Here’s something a bit different – a post without a podcast 🙂 We could have recorded this but it seems easier to just write it down and easier for people to refer back to.

We’ve been asked a few times about how we record Testing In The Pub, and for hints and tips for people starting a podcast. So here goes….


The equipment that we use depends on how we are recording. For face to face recordings then it’s one of these microphones:

  • Zoom H2N. This is a great, portable mic and recorder, which is easy to use and simple to carry around.
  • Blue Yeti. Exceptionally good quality mic, which is easy to setup and use in noisy environments by altering the beam pattern to block out what you don’t want. Much bigger and bulkier than the Zoom so not so good for conferences, etc but great for recording in pubs near home 🙂
  • Samson Go Mic. Super portable and can be plugged into a phone in order to actually record. Beam pattern can be altered so you can block out some background noise but it’s nowhere near as good as the ones above. Far cheaper and much, much more portable tho.

If we are recording remotely then we use zencastr and either in the ear mics or the Zoom or Blue Yeti above, plugged into laptops or MS Surface. One thing to watch with zencastr is to make sure all other programs are closed on the devices that you are using. If you don’t do this then it’s common to get audio drift (where the audio on each channel, i.e. each participant, goes out of sync). Correcting audio drift in the edit is a painful and time consuming experience.


We use Audacity for all our editing. It’s great, free and really easy to use. Most of the editing involves removing background noise (the filter for this in Audacity is really good) but removing the odd section , and adding the intro. There’s no need to use anything else.


We self host our own WordPress site using tsohost and also serve the streaming content from there too. This works at the scale that we are at currently but if we get much bigger then we’ll need to explore other solutions.

We use the blubrry podcasting plugin in order to push episodes to iTunes, etc as well as to provide the rss feed, streaming controls on our WordPress site, and handle downloads. It works really well. Blubrry also offer full hosting solutions which is something that we may well consider in the future.

Other Stuff

  • We use iTunes in order to update the relevant metadata and add the logo to each episode before upload.
  • Show notes are written directly in the WordPress site and once the relevant episode file has been linked then publishing the show notes also pushes the new episode to the relevant podcast directories and our rss feed.
  • Blubrry can also push episodes to Spotify. We need to set this up as we are currently not on there.
  • There are free options for podcast hosting (I’ve heard good things about podbean) but be aware that it can be harder to move away from free services if either the company goes bust or you need functionality from a paid provider.
  • Don’t forget SEO. There’s lots of great SEO plugins for WordPress that you can use to get your podcast well listed with Google.

Hopefully this is a useful overview of how we do things. Comments and questions are very welcome so leave a comment.

Code Coverage and Test Coverage – Testing In The Pub Episode 54

Welcome back to another Testing In The Pub, its episode 54 – Code Coverage and Test Coverage.

How do you measure your testing effort? And how do you report on it? Is it as valuable as it could be, and adjusted for the audience who will read it? Listen to Dan and Steve chat about all things code and test coverage related and discuss how they’ve reported on quality and testing efforts in the past.

As always, we’d love to hear about your experiences and how you do things. So drop us a line at, leave a comment on the website or contact us on Twitter or Instagram (@testinginthepub).

Cultures – Testing In The Pub Episode 53

Welcome to Episode 53 – Cultures, another podcast from Testing In The Pub.

In this episode we have a chat about cultures. Are cultures forward or backward looking? Can you build a culture or does a culture just evolve? Who is responsible for a culture? What’s this “Culture of Quality” thing that’s so trendy at the moment actually all about?

As always, if you’ve got ideas, things you want to share, suggestions for future episodes or feedback on this one then we’d love to hear from you. Either leave a comment or tweet us @testinginthpub.

Episode 52 – Communities

Welcome back to another Testing In the Pub, Episode 52 – Communities.

In this episode we talk about communities. Inclusive vs exclusive,  internal vs external and how the communities have helped us. Is the  industry is in trouble because external communities don’t mix? And what are we doing to try and solve that? We then finish up talking about how people can get involved in the community.

Episode 51 – More On Hiring

Welcome back to another Testing In the Pub – Episode 51 – More On Hiring. In this episode we finally continue our chat about hiring. Sorry it’s been so long coming.

In it we talk about a lot of things hiring related, including portfolios. The blog post Steve mentions is this one.

Episode 50 – Hiring

Yes, it’s episode 50 – Hiring.

In this episode we talk about hiring, both from the perspective of someone wanting to be hired, and someone hiring. It’s the first part of a two part episode.

As you may notice we ‘may’ have forgotten that we’ve reached the landmark of 50 episodes. Oops 🙂 Thanks to everyone who’s listened so far, we’ve got lots more great episodes planned to stick around for what comes next.

Episode 49 – Leadership vs Management

Welcome to this episode of Testing In the Pub, it’s Episode 49 – Leadership vs Management.

In this episode we sit down and discuss the differences between leaders and managers. Can everyone be a leader or a manager? What are the common misconceptions in managerial and leadership skillsets? How does coaching and mentoring fit in?

Hopefully this episode starts to answer these questions. There’s more to come so listen to future episodes where we’ll delve into all of this in more detail.

Episode 48 – More Psychology In Testing

Welcome back to another Testing In the Pub, Episode 48 – More Psychology In Testing.

In this episode we expand on our previous discussion about Psychology In Testing and talk more about ignorance, biases and emotions.

There’s some great resources out there if you want to find out more:


And lots of great links on Huib Schoots site:


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